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you'll need strong, fair, just law enforcement. so what i'm saying here is you need a balance. you must put it into the education but you also must deal with the situations. that's a fair way of putting it. >> the rate of racially based disturbances like this one, captured on surveillance video, used to be about one per month. but jail officials claim that the amer-i-can program has drastically reduced the number of incidents throughout the jail. >> there's a certain rule that blacks stay with blacks, hispanics stay with hispanics, the whites stay with whites and you can't intermingle. i mean, you can hi and bye but there's a certain tension that you've got to experience. it's like at any given moment you can get into a fight, all-out brawl. >> inmates like jeffrey glade say the program helps break down the racial barriers that lead to violence. >> now i've got some hope, and that's real. i don't want to sound cheesy or nothing, but this program really turned my whole thinking around. and i have to help myself. it ain't all about what they can do for me. >> i mean, they cram it
you'll need strong, fair, just law enforcement. so what i'm saying here is you need a balance. you must put it into the education but you also must deal with the situations. that's a fair way of putting it. >> the rate of racially based disturbances like this one, captured on surveillance video, used to be about one per month. but jail officials claim that the amer-i-can program has drastically reduced the number of incidents throughout the jail. >> there's a certain rule that...
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the law is the law in this case. it's probably not arbitrary and it can be under debate. that's probably where you next where you go. let's go to their conviction. >> those pictures should not been sent around. >> i would like to apologize. i had no intentions of doing it, i'm sorry. [ sobbing ] i'm sorry. [ sobbing ] >> michael: yeah, it's an unpleasant thing to watch. cnn took a look at that same tape and their reporter, poppy harlow, had this to say in her report. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> i never experienced anything like it, candy. it was incredibly emotional and incredibly difficult even for an outsider like me to watch what happened as these two young men who had such promising features, star football players very good students literally watch as they believed their life fell apart. one of them malik richmond, when that sentence came down, he collapsed. i was sitting three feet from malik when he gave that statement. it was very difficult to watch. you know something that came up throughout this sensing, candy, was that malik's father got up and spo
the law is the law in this case. it's probably not arbitrary and it can be under debate. that's probably where you next where you go. let's go to their conviction. >> those pictures should not been sent around. >> i would like to apologize. i had no intentions of doing it, i'm sorry. [ sobbing ] i'm sorry. [ sobbing ] >> michael: yeah, it's an unpleasant thing to watch. cnn took a look at that same tape and their reporter, poppy harlow, had this to say in her report. we'll...
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>> well, under ohio law, whether it's trialed in juvenile court or adult court, it's all regulated by statute. what the ohio statute says if you're an individual who commits a felony between the ages of 14 and 18 years old, a judge can determine in certain instances whether to determine you as a chi an adult or juvenile. one of those is whether a firearm was used in the commission of the crime. what the children's records were prior to that, and obviously, there was not a firearm used in this, probably played into the judge's determination to try them in juvenile court. neither one of them had any prior trouble, and he did use that as a factor as he was trying to weigh what is next for these young men. thank you so much, paul and rachel, good to see both of you. >> thank you. good to see you both. >> and a prayer in vatican city. the pope hits the streets. he is already being called a man of the people. >> and a reminder to watch cnn's new show, the lead, with jake tapper. tomorrow afternoon, 4:00 eastern time. [ male announcer ] need help keeping your digestive balance in sync? try a
>> well, under ohio law, whether it's trialed in juvenile court or adult court, it's all regulated by statute. what the ohio statute says if you're an individual who commits a felony between the ages of 14 and 18 years old, a judge can determine in certain instances whether to determine you as a chi an adult or juvenile. one of those is whether a firearm was used in the commission of the crime. what the children's records were prior to that, and obviously, there was not a firearm used in...
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now yesterday a steubenville judge proved that even football is not above the law. judge thomas lipps sentenced malik richmond to a minimum of one year in a juvenile at the detention center and trent mays, who had taken pictures of the naked victim, to two years. they will be forced to undergo counseling and they'll have to register as sex offenders. after the verdict was handed down both had a chance to apologize to the victim and her family. and it was poppy harlow could not help but remind everyone that it was sad for the rapists too. >> it was incredibly emotional and incredibly difficult for even an outsider like me to watch what happened to these two young men that had such promising futures, star football players, very good students, both found guilty of raping this 16-year-old girl at a series of parties back in august, alcohol-fueled parties. alcohol a huge part in this. >> john: because we all know that every party involving alcohol ends in sexual assault. joining me now is dave zirin sports editor of the nation host of engine of sports radio and author of
now yesterday a steubenville judge proved that even football is not above the law. judge thomas lipps sentenced malik richmond to a minimum of one year in a juvenile at the detention center and trent mays, who had taken pictures of the naked victim, to two years. they will be forced to undergo counseling and they'll have to register as sex offenders. after the verdict was handed down both had a chance to apologize to the victim and her family. and it was poppy harlow could not help but remind...
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he was the judge who wrote ohio's law with respect to who shall be bound over. he was the author of that, if you will. so he knows best. the court that he ran was a model for juvenile courts in the entire united states of america. i think he's qualified better than anyone who had intimate knowledge of the facts of who were candidates for adult prosecution. let's set that straight. they were juveniles for a reason and they were prosecuted in juveniju juvenile court for a reason. they didn't have a history and the situation didn't warrant it. now, the lack of evidence are the net times you heard malik's name. malik's name wasn't mentioned very often in that courtroom and he was apologetic for the pain he caused. he was there. >> can you stay for another segment? we have gloria allred joining us. also, tracy lords. she herself was raped as a young girl in steubenville. it would be good if you stayed and we interact with the other two when they come back after the break. >>> the steubenville rape case cut a deep divide in the city but the attorney general said the c
he was the judge who wrote ohio's law with respect to who shall be bound over. he was the author of that, if you will. so he knows best. the court that he ran was a model for juvenile courts in the entire united states of america. i think he's qualified better than anyone who had intimate knowledge of the facts of who were candidates for adult prosecution. let's set that straight. they were juveniles for a reason and they were prosecuted in juveniju juvenile court for a reason. they didn't have...
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we have to see where the tide turned, civil rights law signed by lyndon johnson. to paraphrase, he said i lost the south for a generation. if you peel back what he's trying to say, anyone against this idea of diversity is going to flee the democratic party and go to the republican party. since the signing of this law, democrats have had a difficult time penetrating that bloc of the south states of the traditional southern states. and racial tension isn't part of that bloc. if the republican party really wants to move forward in terms of having diversity, it needs to acknowledge, acknowledge, not say this is who we are, but acknowledge that that part of our history is who still continues to make up a small fraction of the republican party. we're not going to allow these people to be there anymore. a cnn employee who has had shells thrown at her and called a monkey. had they gone on stage and said this is not tolerated here at the rnc, we would not embrace these people. but they didn't do that. they ignored it. >> with all the other stories going on, you may have mi
we have to see where the tide turned, civil rights law signed by lyndon johnson. to paraphrase, he said i lost the south for a generation. if you peel back what he's trying to say, anyone against this idea of diversity is going to flee the democratic party and go to the republican party. since the signing of this law, democrats have had a difficult time penetrating that bloc of the south states of the traditional southern states. and racial tension isn't part of that bloc. if the republican...
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we have a lot of laws on the books. i think it gets back to parents. the responsibility we all have, as parents. the responsibility we have to teach our kids common decency. you know, you talk about the texts. you know, kids text a lot today. it's phenomenal. there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. i mean, it's a little distracting, i find it, personally distracting when kids are constantly texting, but they can be texting something that is just benign and just fine. >> of course, notwithstanding. notwithstanding. but we know the bullying, we know the attitudes, we know the cruelty that now goes on, the verbal cruelty that goes on among social media. >> yeah, look, i think what we have with the social media and the digital media, and all the telecommunications we have today is a big megaphone, amplification. we see it -- i see it in my office on consumer fraud. somebody used to be able to commit consumer fraud and they would do it in their own neighborhood or their own town. now they can rip off people in 45 states, because they go off on the inte
we have a lot of laws on the books. i think it gets back to parents. the responsibility we all have, as parents. the responsibility we have to teach our kids common decency. you know, you talk about the texts. you know, kids text a lot today. it's phenomenal. there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. i mean, it's a little distracting, i find it, personally distracting when kids are constantly texting, but they can be texting something that is just benign and just fine. >> of course,...
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is going to free the democratic party and go to the republican party, and since the signing of this law democrats have had a very difficult time penetrating that bloc of the south states, of the traditional southern states, and racial tension is part that have block. now if the republican party really wants to move forward in terms of having didversitdivers needs to acknowledge, not say that that's who we are, acknowledge that that part of the history is continuing to make up a small partial of the republican party. a cnn employee had shells thrown at her and called a monkey had. they said this kind of attitude is not tolerated here at the rnc, we would not continue to embrace those kinds of people. they ignored it, and i hope they don't ignore this because that's not what they should be doing. >> with all the other stories going on, you may have missed this one. this week an assault ban bill was okayed for the full senate to take up. we ask you does it have a chance? your responses next. this day calls you. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take a
is going to free the democratic party and go to the republican party, and since the signing of this law democrats have had a very difficult time penetrating that bloc of the south states, of the traditional southern states, and racial tension is part that have block. now if the republican party really wants to move forward in terms of having didversitdivers needs to acknowledge, not say that that's who we are, acknowledge that that part of the history is continuing to make up a small partial of...
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the lawyers are fighting the law in the supreme court. we now have a report from the occupied west bank. >> this father and son work quietly, thinking about who is missing. his other son has been arrested again by the israeli army. the family says yousouf was trying to start a new life but the army wouldn't let him. >> they'd call him up from 8:00 in the morning to 8:00 in the evening and wouldn't ask him anything. they'd just have him sitting, waiting. every day they'd do this. >> there were 40 palestinians released under the swap deal. two of them have been arrested again and may end up having to serve out the remainder of their old sentence. more than 1,000 palestinian prisoners were exchanged for the israeli soldier. but many have been arrested again based on secret evidence. >> they don't provide any concrete evidence that those people broke the law or acted against israel or the security but rather rely on secret evidence. don't know if it was credible or who submitted it or if it was checked. >> the prisonner deal was negotiated by
the lawyers are fighting the law in the supreme court. we now have a report from the occupied west bank. >> this father and son work quietly, thinking about who is missing. his other son has been arrested again by the israeli army. the family says yousouf was trying to start a new life but the army wouldn't let him. >> they'd call him up from 8:00 in the morning to 8:00 in the evening and wouldn't ask him anything. they'd just have him sitting, waiting. every day they'd do this....
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that the education about consent needs to begin much earlier, that they believed they were above the law, and that when they were documenting it, they didn't realize that what they were doing is creating evidence in a criminal case. they believed that because the coach had their backs, which suggests that this is a long-standing cultural issue, that absolutely nothing would happen to them. so instead of focusing on the victims' behavior, what we should be focusing on is how do we intervene in this culture that tells boys that they don't have to respect women as humans, and if they sexually humiliate young girls, absolutely nothing will happen to them. if there's anything we can learn, it is the fact that people need to learn from consent is, what stanley impairment is, intervene in a cultural of masculinity. >> speaking about the toxic culture of masculinity, you of course spent a great deal of time away from the clamor trying to educate young women and young men about these issues. the mother of the victim actually delivered a statement in court to the defendants. she said in part, your
that the education about consent needs to begin much earlier, that they believed they were above the law, and that when they were documenting it, they didn't realize that what they were doing is creating evidence in a criminal case. they believed that because the coach had their backs, which suggests that this is a long-standing cultural issue, that absolutely nothing would happen to them. so instead of focusing on the victims' behavior, what we should be focusing on is how do we intervene in...
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for those of you who are not familiar with you a jid cases of delinquency in juvenile law, it is similar to finding of guilty in the adult court. >> reporter: guilty on all counts. that hand down. the two defendants in this case now the two convicted rapists broke down in court when they heard the verdict come down. trent mayes crying, malik richmond just collapsing into the arms of his attorney sitting next to him and sobbing over and over again. i want you to listen to the two boys as they later stood up and apologized to the victim's family. >> i would like to apologize to you people. i had no intentions to do something like to. i'm sorry to put guys through this. i'd just like -- i would just like to apologize to my family and the families in the community. those pictures shouldn't have been sent around, let alone even taken. i just apologize. >> reporter: regret and remorse but the victim's attorney told me it came far too late in this case after the verdict was handed out, fredricka. >> and how did the victim's family react specifically? what words were spoken? >> reporter: so the
for those of you who are not familiar with you a jid cases of delinquency in juvenile law, it is similar to finding of guilty in the adult court. >> reporter: guilty on all counts. that hand down. the two defendants in this case now the two convicted rapists broke down in court when they heard the verdict come down. trent mayes crying, malik richmond just collapsing into the arms of his attorney sitting next to him and sobbing over and over again. i want you to listen to the two boys as...
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there is a law in ohio that can, you know, cause someone to be charged for failing to report a felony, and clearly, in this case, a rape is a felony. so i think we're going to see more coming out of this attorney general's investigation. >> the fact that you have now two other teenaged girls who have been arrested for making threats against this 16-year-old rape survivor is again, it's stunning. >> it's just, you know, it just leaves me speechless, anderson. again, i ask where are the parents, if your kids are following this court case and if you're watching this, has someone sat down to say in social media, there are consequences for your actions. taking these pictures, disseminating them, caused an additional charge for one of the defendants. making death threats, talking about a homicide on twitter is just plain stupid. in addition to being criminal conduct, which we heard the sheriff in this town say he's going to prosecute and take very seriously, so i hope that this is a wake-up call for the parents, the educators and you know, people across this country to realize that these ar
there is a law in ohio that can, you know, cause someone to be charged for failing to report a felony, and clearly, in this case, a rape is a felony. so i think we're going to see more coming out of this attorney general's investigation. >> the fact that you have now two other teenaged girls who have been arrested for making threats against this 16-year-old rape survivor is again, it's stunning. >> it's just, you know, it just leaves me speechless, anderson. again, i ask where are...
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my devotion to law and human rights and the guiding principles of my faith. >> finally, public support for gay marriage is at an all-time high. 58% support marriage equality. only 36% opposed. let's bring in the national spokesperson for glad. hillary clinton said her views were shaped in part by people she has known, but it's a human rights issue as well. so it's not just personal. it's principle. so the accolades for senator portman's announcement need to be put that a context, don't they? >> they do, but senator portman and mrs. clinton are two examples of people who are examples of what we've always nope at glad, which is when people know us, when they know our stories, when they're part of our lives and hear our stories, they understand our issues and they are on our side. so we applaud senator portman for his statement and for supporting his son. his son has the right to love whoever he chooses, and just like his brothers and his sisters. so we welcome that. and as for mrs. clinton, she's always been a great supporter of our community, and we're not shocked by her eloquent statem
my devotion to law and human rights and the guiding principles of my faith. >> finally, public support for gay marriage is at an all-time high. 58% support marriage equality. only 36% opposed. let's bring in the national spokesperson for glad. hillary clinton said her views were shaped in part by people she has known, but it's a human rights issue as well. so it's not just personal. it's principle. so the accolades for senator portman's announcement need to be put that a context, don't...
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what a judge can do is rule on the law. you don't approach people for discriminatory reasons. you don't profile. if you see there's a crime being committed or about to be committed or some other measure that gives you probable cause, you do what a police officer is lawfully entitled and expected to do. >> that line is very fuzzy. >> is it ever. you got probable cause, reasonable suspicion and then a hunch. that's where this gets really fuzzy. all right. thank you to both of you. i have a test for our viewers and i just want to throw this out there for you. what is lindsay lohan in for this time? she's due back in court this morning. we tried to remember what it could be. we looked up the things it might be. are you ready? allegedly punching a reader in a new york nightclub, a crash between her truck on a highway. allegedly hitting a new york restaurant worker and leaving the scene, stealing a necklace, dui arrest, driving on suspended license, perhaps missing alcohol counseling sessions or maybe cocaine possession or failing a drug test. she has faced all of these and i think
what a judge can do is rule on the law. you don't approach people for discriminatory reasons. you don't profile. if you see there's a crime being committed or about to be committed or some other measure that gives you probable cause, you do what a police officer is lawfully entitled and expected to do. >> that line is very fuzzy. >> is it ever. you got probable cause, reasonable suspicion and then a hunch. that's where this gets really fuzzy. all right. thank you to both of you. i...
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for those of you who are not familiar with adjudications of delinquency in juvenile law, it's similar to finding of guilty in the adult court. >> reporter: all families, families of both co-defendants, the family of the victim in court, present for this ruling. and the two teenage boys who are now convicted rapists broke down when that verdict was read, and then later, before they were sentenced, they got up to apologize to the victim's family. >> and poppy, we understand the mom of the victim also had something to say in court? >> reporter: the mom spoke after court got out, don. this is very significant. this is the first time that we have publicly heard from the victim's mother. she gave an audio statement. and i want to let our viewers listen to that audio statement in full. here it is. >> it did not matter what school you went to, what city you lived in or what sports you've played. human compassion is not taught by a teacher, a coach or a parent. it is a god-given gift instilled in all of us. you displayed not only a lack of discompassion, but a lack of moral code. your decision
for those of you who are not familiar with adjudications of delinquency in juvenile law, it's similar to finding of guilty in the adult court. >> reporter: all families, families of both co-defendants, the family of the victim in court, present for this ruling. and the two teenage boys who are now convicted rapists broke down when that verdict was read, and then later, before they were sentenced, they got up to apologize to the victim's family. >> and poppy, we understand the mom of...
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his son-in-law defects in 1995, it turns out he had a substantial biological weapons program, including anthrax. and then in 1998, he kicks out the inspectors, bombs iraq and the inspectors were out for five years. that's the scenario leading up to 2003. things didn't start on march 19th, 2003. it's important to understand that. >> what made 2003 possible was 2001. that is to say after 9/11 there are people like richard clarke at the national security council who said there were people and he specifically mentions you and your boss donald rumsfeld who started diverting attention away from al qaeda towards iraq. that this was, that you reviewed this as an opportunity to deal with what you regard as the unfinished business of iraq. >> no one was arguing to divert attention from al qaeda and afghanistan. that was clearly part of the problem. the question was whether iraq was part of the problem. we could spend an entire show going into the historical detail. but i think the important thing is to say, well, we had this experience, was there a way to avoid this war? was it necessary? and wha
his son-in-law defects in 1995, it turns out he had a substantial biological weapons program, including anthrax. and then in 1998, he kicks out the inspectors, bombs iraq and the inspectors were out for five years. that's the scenario leading up to 2003. things didn't start on march 19th, 2003. it's important to understand that. >> what made 2003 possible was 2001. that is to say after 9/11 there are people like richard clarke at the national security council who said there were people...
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i'm afraid pursuing a law he be format approach is not going to come up with much. there's talk of another possible suspect held by the libyans, that would be good news, but we'll see if we ever get access to him. >> you're talking of the difficulty of knowing what's going on with the investigation. i want to play a little built of a talk that happened with a house intelligence committee chairman, mike rogers out of michigan. what he's talking about the person in custody may be more of a suspect than a witness. let's watch. >> we're not sure yet. we have pretty good indications that he is at least a highly-- a suspect at being involved. >> harris: that's a little bit different than what we've been hearing, again, not confirmation that this person may have had any involvement, but you mentioned we didn't have access to him. and what's the situation? >> well, i think when you have an event like this now six months old, i think any responsible law enforcement official would tell you, it's very hard with this much time gone by to think that you're going to be able to tr
i'm afraid pursuing a law he be format approach is not going to come up with much. there's talk of another possible suspect held by the libyans, that would be good news, but we'll see if we ever get access to him. >> you're talking of the difficulty of knowing what's going on with the investigation. i want to play a little built of a talk that happened with a house intelligence committee chairman, mike rogers out of michigan. what he's talking about the person in custody may be more of a...
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at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. and make your business dream a reality. ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >> self defense or pre-meditated murder? a arizona jury will have to decide her fate. a foreign sglik psychiatrist hired the defense will be taking the stand. that is all tonight. thanks for being with us. make sure you go to greta wire.com. make sure you know what's going on with us tonight jodi arias trial. good night from washington, d.c. >> this is a fox report. tonight evacuations underway here at the airport in the nation's heartland where a small corporate jet has gone down hitting a group of homes. six months after the killings of libya and three other americans there are new questions tonight about why we have not heard from the people who did escape from that ambush alive. >> survivors from that deadly night terrorist attacked our american diplomatic out post in libya. what do these people know and why don't our
at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. and make your business dream a reality. ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >> self defense or pre-meditated murder? a arizona jury will have to decide her fate. a foreign sglik psychiatrist hired the defense will be taking the stand. that is all tonight. thanks for being with us. make sure you go to greta wire.com. make sure you know what's going on with...
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we have to go back to see where the tragedy occurred. 1964 civil rights law signed by lyndon b. johnson. and he said, i have lost a generation, meaning the democ t democrats have lost trust for a generation. when you hear what he's trying to say, anyone against this idea is going to flee the democratic party and go to the republican party, and democrats have had a hard time getting through that block of the southern states and racial tension is a part of that bloc. if the republican party wants to move through into diversity, it has to acknowledge that parts part of our history. the repression by the republican party, and we're not going to allow them to be there. there was a cnn employee who had things thrown at her. had they said this attitude is not tolerated here, we would not face these people. they ignored it, and i hope they don't ignore this. >> that has to be the last word. >> no, those people got thrown out. >> we have breaking news that we have to get to. i want to show you pictures. we'll tell you more after the break. this is from south bend, indiana. a small plane
we have to go back to see where the tragedy occurred. 1964 civil rights law signed by lyndon b. johnson. and he said, i have lost a generation, meaning the democ t democrats have lost trust for a generation. when you hear what he's trying to say, anyone against this idea is going to flee the democratic party and go to the republican party, and democrats have had a hard time getting through that block of the southern states and racial tension is a part of that bloc. if the republican party wants...
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i support it personally and as a matter of policy and law. >> so the human rights campaign releasing that ad just a short time ago features mrs. clinton saying gays and lesbians deserve the right of marriage. nbc political editor mike murray joins me from washington. mike i just got an e-mail from mike griffin saying make sure we notice how hillary clinton says this is a matter of policy and law. and president clinton came out striking down doma. and this comes back to the logic step-taking on marriage equality. >> thomas, it's not surprising that hillary clinton did this. but not only is the cover on the move for gay marriage in the next four or five years but also we haven't seen hillary clinton on the political stage in the last four or five years and that's is why she never communicated on the matter. consistent with barack obama when he was campaigning. of course, barack obama made his shift during the 2012 presidential campaign. now, we're seeing hillary clinton make her shift. and it does end up stoking some type of speculation that this might be all apparent to lay the ground
i support it personally and as a matter of policy and law. >> so the human rights campaign releasing that ad just a short time ago features mrs. clinton saying gays and lesbians deserve the right of marriage. nbc political editor mike murray joins me from washington. mike i just got an e-mail from mike griffin saying make sure we notice how hillary clinton says this is a matter of policy and law. and president clinton came out striking down doma. and this comes back to the logic...
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his father was in a lot of trouble with the law and in trouble with the law. his father stood up and said i feel responsible for this and i feel i wasn't there for my son. he approached him, he hugged him and whispered in his ear and ma'lik's attorney said i never heard his father say, i love you. an incredibly emotional day. these two juveniles being carried out and they will be committed today, candy. >> poppy harlow in steubenville, ohio. i want to bring in paul callan. you know, paul, a 16-year-old now just sobbing in court, regardless of what big football players they are, still sound like 16 year olds. the other one 17. a 16-year-old victim. the thing is, when you listen to it and you realize that they could stay until they're 21, they are going to get credit for time served. what is the lasting effect, though, on two young men being found guilty in juvenile court of rape, essentially? >> well, you know, candy, we've seen here a courtroom drenched in tears and tragedy and, you know, poppy's description, i think, you know, sums it all up. but across ameri
his father was in a lot of trouble with the law and in trouble with the law. his father stood up and said i feel responsible for this and i feel i wasn't there for my son. he approached him, he hugged him and whispered in his ear and ma'lik's attorney said i never heard his father say, i love you. an incredibly emotional day. these two juveniles being carried out and they will be committed today, candy. >> poppy harlow in steubenville, ohio. i want to bring in paul callan. you know, paul,...
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, that all of a sudden they're going to follow some new laws. it's not about the bad guys. no. it's all about the lead. it's like that chunk of metal did the crime. that's like saying that fork made me fat. and background checks, yeah, i guess to learn more about a person's thinking and associations and intentions? more background checks? dandy idea, mr. president. should have started with yours. [ applause ] well, it is great to be back at cpac. i'm so happy to be here. it feels like it's coming home even though it is only my second time here. but kind of hoping i can get the hang of it. i can spot those liberal media folk here to right their annual conservatives in crisis story. how many of you guys are here? raise your hands! come on! raise your hands. be proud. you're loud. we're used to it. certainly you're not ashamed to raise it high. don't worry. we would never dream of making you wait outside on the party bus. it is an honor to be here. we can come together, folks, for an adult conversation about the future of our country, and heaven kn
, that all of a sudden they're going to follow some new laws. it's not about the bad guys. no. it's all about the lead. it's like that chunk of metal did the crime. that's like saying that fork made me fat. and background checks, yeah, i guess to learn more about a person's thinking and associations and intentions? more background checks? dandy idea, mr. president. should have started with yours. [ applause ] well, it is great to be back at cpac. i'm so happy to be here. it feels like it's...
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. >>> an expansion of background checks took one step closer to law friday. it was approved by lawmakers and now sent to governor john hickenlooper expected to sign within two weeks. colorado was the site that mass shooting in an aurora movie theater last july. >>> from the come on man, two oregon girl scout troops selling cookies to attend credits to go to summer camp. they were duped in blowing they made a massive sale of 6 you thousand boxes. but they learned that the order was all a hoax and now they have to sell those cookies worth $24,000. the girls are holding a special sale today to try and move the thin mints and others so they can get to go to camp. let's chip in and get some samoas. do something here. that's rough. who dupes the girl scouts. >> how do you choose which to do when you're doing the hoax. what, they decided on mint. >> a mean person. >> everyone knows samoas are the best. >> thin mints are pretty good too. >> we'll argue on the commercial. >> thanks, rob. >>> well, now to the vatsz where the world is watching every move the newly elect
. >>> an expansion of background checks took one step closer to law friday. it was approved by lawmakers and now sent to governor john hickenlooper expected to sign within two weeks. colorado was the site that mass shooting in an aurora movie theater last july. >>> from the come on man, two oregon girl scout troops selling cookies to attend credits to go to summer camp. they were duped in blowing they made a massive sale of 6 you thousand boxes. but they learned that the order...
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. >> reporter: they were arrested by hacking groups anonymous accused law enforcement of not being aggressive enough. >> you're a football player, you get to do what you want as long as you have a winning season. >> has preferential treatment been given to these boys because they're part of the football team? >> that's not true. they're facing charges. no. >> reporter: sheriff believes some of what is being posted on-line and social media about the case is false. >> they give us a black eye. when you have people continue to put false information out there, you know, it's tough to make it go away. >> reporter: steubenville police chief bill mccafferty says despite many pleas few witnesses came forward. >> the thing i found disturbing, depending on who actually was there, why didn't somebody stop it? >> reporter: this once thriving eastern ohio steel town, now a shelf its former self, struggling economically. big red football, one of the few bright spots. today it's this alleged rape that has the town in the spotlight. poppy harlow, cnn, steubenville, ohio. >> both of the accused are being trie
. >> reporter: they were arrested by hacking groups anonymous accused law enforcement of not being aggressive enough. >> you're a football player, you get to do what you want as long as you have a winning season. >> has preferential treatment been given to these boys because they're part of the football team? >> that's not true. they're facing charges. no. >> reporter: sheriff believes some of what is being posted on-line and social media about the case is false....
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facebook, a connection between netflix and facebook has been prohibited until now because of a very old law forbidding video companies from revealing what customers rent. that dates back to a supreme court decision. this has now changed. you will be able to see on netflix what movies your friends like, what you like. not yet on facebook yet. we can't give you specific privacy advice about turning it on, turning it off. in the long run, it will be helpful. at least among close friends. >> thank you very much. >>> this is a wild one here. a hole in one that no golfer ever hopes for. a golfer on a golf course in illinois swallowed up by a sink hole. his name? mike mahull. no cinderella story. when he went to check the thing out, the sink hole opened ten feet deep. the staff of the course were finally able to get him out with a ladder and rope. he suffered a dislocated shoulder and several bruises. no shocker here, he says he doesn't think he will be playing that course any time soon. >> i've been known to make some divots in my time, but nothing like that. >> wow! >> take a look at the forecas
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the arizona case is about a very simple conflict between a state law and a federal law enacted i congress. congress saw people were not registered to vote. it was largely because of a very confusing patch work of state laws. lots of barriers of lots of types to voter rej trags. and congress decided to safeguard the integrity of elections to making sure whatever states did they had to do additional streamlined registration procedures. and part of that was a wonderful mechanism called the federal voter registration postcard. no matter where you live anywhere in the united states you can go and get one of these postcards, fill it out, send it in and be registered to vote for federal elections. >> this has a tremendous, wonderful impact in increasing voter registration in the united states. and in arizona there's a h law that says we won't take your postcard unless you add additional things. >> they want you to bring in a birth certificate. they're putting their own layer on top of it. >> that's exactly right. and the reason is allegedly pruf of citizenship. and what arizona is doing is graft
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the law is the law and needs to be applied as such and that's really the problem and i think that's what the inspector general concludes. >> megyn: and yet, julian, another quote from the ig report because even though they acknowledge that there is this division among these lawyers about whether you bring the cases when the defendant-- and pursue the more traditional civil rights cases, they also say this, full screen 4, there is insufficient support for a conclusion that division leadership improperly refused to enforce the voting rights laws on behalf of any particular it group of voters. they seem to be saying, julian, they haven't done anything improper in getting to the place where this have this priority of enforcement. it's not improperly, but it's there. >> well, i agree with jay that these cases should be respected neutrally and nonracially. the ig actually says more than the quote that you read. if you go on to read the sections that follow that, the ig says that there has been no evidence of any selective prosecution whatsoever. so, this case that jay is making when white vote
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a law enforcement official tells cnn investigators are looking into how the perpetrators got the data and whether it was hacked or not. the fbi, secret service and los angeles police are all on their trail. i spoke with michael gibbons, former head of the fbi's computer investigation's unit. >> how are investigators tracking these suspects? >> the addresses of computers will lead you to other computers and little detail file names and snippets of file and computer systems looking for an exact piece of evidence from across the globe. >> reporter: two credit agencies confirm information on their clients was accessed. how easy is it for an impersonator to fake an inquiry and get data about you from a credit agency? i called for a free credit report to learn the type of information they ask for. my mailing address is -- [ bleep ]. my social security number is -- just hung up with annualcreditreport.com. they asked for my full name, mailing address, and social security number. for that they did offer a security safe guard asking if i only wanted my last four digits posted with my report. o
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but still, it gets back to i was taught absolutism on freedom of speech in law school and i stick to that. i think if it happened here, i'd say as long as you're not inciting anyone to violence, he has every right to do this. >> has every right to do this. ms. love, what do you think? >> you know i don't like this. i mean, i don't like this and i agree with you, craig, that they should make him watch a month of history channel hitler week. do that and he will never ever do that salute again. he's an international player. he knows what he's doing. international, he is well versed in what is right and what is wrong. if he wanted to do it, step up to be a man and say i wanted to salute. >> from the public relations aspect of it, it never pays to make nazi reference. it always backfires. just stupid. >> but it got all of us kind of thinking, how does one not know. it's absolutely ignorant not to know about the barbarity that was adolf hitler, but it got us talking this morning. the guy is 20. i mean, does he maybe not know the history, peter? is that a possibility? >> first of all, i fin
but still, it gets back to i was taught absolutism on freedom of speech in law school and i stick to that. i think if it happened here, i'd say as long as you're not inciting anyone to violence, he has every right to do this. >> has every right to do this. ms. love, what do you think? >> you know i don't like this. i mean, i don't like this and i agree with you, craig, that they should make him watch a month of history channel hitler week. do that and he will never ever do that...
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is fine, the law is what it is, but then we've got our deal that says, forget that law, it's a pesky law, how are we going to get our dues with that law in place. >> one of the reasons we see unemployment in right to work states. a full 8/10 of a percent lower than in nonright to work states. it's-- >> unemployment's lower? you're saying more people are-- >> it's lower in right to work states. >> megyn: right to work. >> significantly. we're looking at greater business formation in those states. and it's-- it's a very simple and personal situation. >> megyn: something in going on in oregon where the teachers union there wants state lawmakers to remove -- there's a notice coming up on the balance. >> property taxes. >> megyn: that is warning people of a potential property tax hike in the coming election. i don't understand exactly what's happening. the teachers don't like that, but why are the teachers objecting to notifications of property taxes going up. >> they don't want the voters to notice if they've signed up, they voted for a property tax hike and the property taxes are the ba
is fine, the law is what it is, but then we've got our deal that says, forget that law, it's a pesky law, how are we going to get our dues with that law in place. >> one of the reasons we see unemployment in right to work states. a full 8/10 of a percent lower than in nonright to work states. it's-- >> unemployment's lower? you're saying more people are-- >> it's lower in right to work states. >> megyn: right to work. >> significantly. we're looking at greater...
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breaking the law or not. because you think about it the way the kids use internet and twitter and facebook, they have mediums to try to transmit this will kind of hate far beyond anything we know about. secondly, our laws, they're accused of menacing so that's threatening serious body harm. threatening that murder. but does it rise to that level or are they online throwing out messages. they don't understand the depth of what they're doing i think. and also we need something in our laws that accounts no this because our laws account for something that is physical, and you can see almost when these online things are a different story. >> it sounds simple, update the laws. why haven't we done that yet? >> ryan perfectly describes the menacing, but they don't c contemplate mass text messages and tweets. so how reality based were they. did somebody really think amongst all the tweets that they received that they would be murdered or seriously injured. and ite it's a difficult to case it prove. the problem is they
breaking the law or not. because you think about it the way the kids use internet and twitter and facebook, they have mediums to try to transmit this will kind of hate far beyond anything we know about. secondly, our laws, they're accused of menacing so that's threatening serious body harm. threatening that murder. but does it rise to that level or are they online throwing out messages. they don't understand the depth of what they're doing i think. and also we need something in our laws that...
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one prosecutor prom i guesses to challenge the new law. >>> more trouble with carnival this week. the u.s. coast guard says it will look into an incident aboard the legend ship which is having technical difficulties that affects its sailing speed. the company is flying more than 4,000 passengers back from st. martin to florida. >> so what about the people who have already paid for the legend's next voyage? what do you do if you are on one of them? we have advice from a travel agent in our next hour. much more on the newsroom after this. for the next half hour cnn is bringing you the south by southwest festival. join us as we talk to scientists, film makers and magicians and the early adapters to seek what's next. the annual festival is where tools developed in silicon valley and elsewhere are turned into the culture of today. >> technology by itself doesn't give you anything, makes you go faster, better, so on and so forth and it supplies the meaning and purpose of why you use a piece of technology. >> this is like a mecca. this is a place to go you can pull it all in and where al
one prosecutor prom i guesses to challenge the new law. >>> more trouble with carnival this week. the u.s. coast guard says it will look into an incident aboard the legend ship which is having technical difficulties that affects its sailing speed. the company is flying more than 4,000 passengers back from st. martin to florida. >> so what about the people who have already paid for the legend's next voyage? what do you do if you are on one of them? we have advice from a travel...
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he is familiar with the law. i don't think he's using his senate seat uttering falsities about what the constitution says. he was making a case for the second amendment. i think what we're upset about is the tone and tenor he took with dianne feinstein, which is a fair point. >> jamaal, he's already on the winning side. this assault weapons ban will probably not get passed and people are wondering what his point is. >> yeah, his point, i think, as margaret was referring to, his point is to appeal to the tea party base. i sat with dianne feinstein. i heard her tell the story firsthand about being in the city hall as deficits go when the shootings that occurred that led to her taking the mayor's office. i think she does not need anybody like ted cruz telling her what to do. this issue around gun violence, i think we have to recognize it is different for people who come from rural areas versus people who come from urban areas. i saw first gun when i was in middle school, a kid who held it, you know, during a robbery
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in the nation if they are signed into law. one bill bans abortions after a heartbeat is detected, the onl exception if the pregnancy endangers the mother's life, no exception for rape or incest, another bans it based on gender or genetic defects. >>> listen up you tech fans, samsung's new galaxy s4 is finally here, it could be the next big thing to dethrone the iphone from its reign. maybe so. maybe not. we'll walk you through all the cool features. follow, but at xerox we've embraced a new role. working behind the scenes to provide companies with services... like helping hr departments manage benefits and pensions for over 11 million employees. reducing document costs by up to 30%... and processing $421 billion dollars in accounts payables each year. helping thousands of companies simplify how work gets done. how's that for an encore? with xerox, you're ready for real business. there's no subtext... just tacos. yeah, it's our job to make you want it. but honestly... it's not that hard. old el paso. when you gotta have mexican
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the cdc attributes that to seat belt laws and graduated license programs. so that is some good news. but still a scary situation for teens on these roads. >> and a scary time with the number of young people who died in this terrible high profile crashes. george howell for us, thanks. >>> still ahead on "starting point," day two. high school football players will go on trial accused of raping a teenage girl. pivotal role that social media will play in this case up next in a live report. and google admits to a major breach of privacy. what this means for the internet giant is straight ahead. >>> welcome back, everybody. the world's 1.2 billion catholics, there is still no pope this morning. black smoke rising from the chimney atop the sistine chapel. happened about 60 minutes ago. that signal from the 115 cardinal electors that they still have not agreed on a new spiritual leader. that marks the conclusion of the morning session. the cardinals now return to the sistine chapel three and a half hours from now. and at 12:30 this afternoon, all eyes back on that
the cdc attributes that to seat belt laws and graduated license programs. so that is some good news. but still a scary situation for teens on these roads. >> and a scary time with the number of young people who died in this terrible high profile crashes. george howell for us, thanks. >>> still ahead on "starting point," day two. high school football players will go on trial accused of raping a teenage girl. pivotal role that social media will play in this case up next...
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law and i will tell you if these prisoners were, let's say, in a federal prison guided under u.s. law, most of the courts, the few courts that have dealt with this issue, have found force feeding constitutional. and so, again, i think it's their controversial status that makes this such a very difficult issue. just because you're a prisoner does not mean that you give up all of your constitutional rights. but again, the department of defense says, yeah, that they are complying with u.s. law, as well as their own policy. >> barbara starr, sunny hostin, thanks to both of you. >>> we have breaking news to tell you about. i'm getting word the man convicted of killing rabbi werzberger more than two decades ago has just been released. we're told the family erupted with joy in the courtroom. we're getting the tape, more details, that's next. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading comp
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at issue is, whether the stop and frisk law unfairly target minorities? officers are allowed to stop, question, and sometimes frisk people on the street. city officials say it's helped dramatically reduce gun violence. >>> and a quiet indiana street in is shambles this morning after a private jet came crashing down. the corporate jet hit two homes in south bend, indiana, before becoming lodged in a third home. the pilot had reported electrical problems. >>> hundreds of people evacuated in eastern tennessee this morning after a wildfire erupts and destroys dozens of homes in great smoky mountains national park. helicopters are being brought in to douse the flames. >>> and a health scare for old school rapper tone loc. he clapsed on stage while performing in iowa. you haven't heard that name in awhile, have you? he reportedly has a history of seizures. the 47-year-old is best known for his '80s hit, everybody -- funky cold medina. >>> and finally, a pro football star is a free agent this morning all because of a fax machine. it took too long to transmit the
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his campaign, was a big part of the 2000 campaign, moved to texas and is now trying to enter texas law. >> if he wanted to speak spanish? >> well, naturally. 19 minutes after the hour. >>> one tiny mistake will mean weeks of waiting for hundreds of thousands of taxpayers who hired a pro in hopes of a fast refund. did it happen to you? >>> welcome back to "early start," 23 minutes after the hour. we are "minding your business" this morning. it has been an amazing run on wall street. >> absolutely. >> the dow closed at a record high yesterday. the blue chip have risen for eight straight sessions, marking the longest winning streak in two years. and right now, stock futures are pointing to a mixed open. >> keep it going! >> oh, yes. >>> so, google has reached a multimillion settlement over how it collected its map images. the tech giant is saying 37 states a total of $7 million. google admitted three years ago when it sent around cars and cameras to collect images for the streetview component, the cameras also collected information like passwords and e-mails from unencrypted wi-fi network
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talking about the bad impact of the health care law, because of the consequences within the law so businesses, due to the uncertainty, aren't hiring. when they do hire, they are hiring part-time workers instead of full-time workers and that's why we're still at almost 8% unemployment in this country. >> can i ask you a quick question before i let you go? you are a featured speaker at cpac. two big noninvites are chris christie and bob mcdonnell. what do you make of the omissions? >> i'm not on the committee. >> i know. but what do you make of it? >> i am delighted to be invited. this is the next generation, a youthful crowd, and i'm looking forward to visiting with them on the issues of health occasicare. very devastating for young americans as they start suffering the consequences and expenses of the president's health care law. >> i recognize you are not the guy that makes the invitation list. i'm curious, those are two big names and quite remarkable not on the list. what do you think personally? >> well, i'm not going to decide on who gets invited and who doesn't. i welcome all conservativ
talking about the bad impact of the health care law, because of the consequences within the law so businesses, due to the uncertainty, aren't hiring. when they do hire, they are hiring part-time workers instead of full-time workers and that's why we're still at almost 8% unemployment in this country. >> can i ask you a quick question before i let you go? you are a featured speaker at cpac. two big noninvites are chris christie and bob mcdonnell. what do you make of the omissions? >>...
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under ohio law that meets the standard for rape. but social media has run bad inflammatory information about everything from five or six rapists to a police cover-up. also nasty, taunting of the victim. >> she has been victimized the first time. she is victimized by social media. and starting tomorrow she will have to testify in court. report property now attorney general mike dewine says the evidence against the two football players is solid enough to get a conviction or his office would not have brought the case. the defense has another take. the defense says there is no solid evidence, only testimony from witnesses. therefore his burden will be only to punch holes in the credibility of statements made by teenagers who were drunk at the time. bill? bill: if that is the case, mike, is this a trial where the alleged victim is on trial? >> reporter: the short answer is yes. the defense won't phrase it that way but the defense will bring testimony and evidence that this girl consented, their claim she consented because she chose to dr
under ohio law that meets the standard for rape. but social media has run bad inflammatory information about everything from five or six rapists to a police cover-up. also nasty, taunting of the victim. >> she has been victimized the first time. she is victimized by social media. and starting tomorrow she will have to testify in court. report property now attorney general mike dewine says the evidence against the two football players is solid enough to get a conviction or his office would...
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and he seems to work in this fiction fantasy and fairy tale world and in the court of law, we work in fact, we trade in fact. the facts are undisputed, the scientific evidence, the circumstantial evidence established beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of his peers that phil spector put a gun in lana clarkson's mouth and killed her on february 3rd. that is uncontroverted. >> yeah, i think both sides don't like this movie no matter what they believe. alan, during the trial your opening statement, i believe you said lana was murdered twice when she was killed and during the trial with her character assassination. a review on this movie, is he successful in introducing doubt? i know you believe that he killed lana, but there are people out there who believe that she was under the influence of alcohol and pills and killed herself. your response to that. >> the evidence couldn't be more clear. the evidence could not be more straightforward. david mamet ignored basically everything that was presented in the trial that was based in fact. again, the movie and i saw the movie. i've seen a scre
and he seems to work in this fiction fantasy and fairy tale world and in the court of law, we work in fact, we trade in fact. the facts are undisputed, the scientific evidence, the circumstantial evidence established beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of his peers that phil spector put a gun in lana clarkson's mouth and killed her on february 3rd. that is uncontroverted. >> yeah, i think both sides don't like this movie no matter what they believe. alan, during the trial your opening...